David Bohm May 01, 2009 Silver Butter Beta build
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Hi Everyone.
Well, early this week. I received a tube of Cycle designs Silver Butter.
I gave it a try on some joints on a stainless singer lug set from Richie.
I uploaded some photos to flickr. Link at end of post. It might get
a little long.
So, first. What is it? It is a silver bearing paste in a syringe
that
is
suspended in stainless light flux.
Some history here. I tried using such a substance in silver work and was not impressed.
Didn't seem like there was much silver in it. Didn't do much when you got it up to temp.
This stuff is a lot different, that is for sure. The tube that showed up has as certification paper.
On that paper it shows type of silver, AWS
and
AMS certs and that the density of the product is 4.95 troy ounces per
square
inch. I looked up the specific gravity of pure silver and did a
couple
of
calcs. This stuff is about 75% silver solder by volume. 56%
silver to additive metals.
I first tried it on a seat tube to bottom bracket. I applied it to the
inside of the BB shell with my finger. I have some actual figures of
how
much later. Then applied to seat tube. Twisted together, fixtured
and
wentto town. Usually I tack, then free braze.
I piled up the extra
butter
along the edge of the lug. I then fluxed liberally with Stainless light
flux.
I heated up the points to tack and right away the silver
flowed
and
they be stuck.
I took the ST out, checked, started the full braze. This stuff
definitely
works and works well. It is different, that is for sure.
When
you
first
go through the heating stage, at least on the edges the silver balls up
into
tiny little ball bearings and then a little more heat
and the silver
begins
to show along the edges of the lug. My first attempt I used no
filler
rod
in addition but the little balls where
chasing the torch up the tube and
down along the lug itself. The penetration of the joint was perfect.
Surprising.
Next I did H2O stars and three joints simultaneously. The DT/HT
ST/TT
BB/DT and chainstays. I measure the weight of the product before and
after
I used it and the weight of the rod I used. I used 10grm of Butter on 4
joints (total weight of product 84grm) and 13grm of rod for a total of
23
grams or about 3/4 OZ. I say that is pretty good.
Everything brazed up great. Easy. Here are the downers so far,
that I
can
tell. 1st. You have to deal with the butter. This adds
some time in
placement and smoothing it around and you have to work fast otherwise it
will dry out and become hard to handle. Next, brazing is just
different.
You know how you look for silver along your lug edge or coming out the
other
side of the lug? Not with this stuff. It just comes out everywhere at
the
same time and I had a little issue seeing where I may need to fill
because
it already looked filled, but I had a couple of points that I missed.
3rd.
I didn't leave any excess butter along the edges of the tubes on the
second
try but still, right before full braze, the silver balls up and the
little
buggers chase your flame around, sometimes running on the outside of the
tube/lug and then melting there when you are up to temp.
The silver flash is thin, not a big deal to cope with. 80 grit paper
takes
it right off, but it does look weird. Brazing is easy, but will take
some
practice to deal with the differences. Penetration is excellent, that
is
obvious. I think I used less silver than before or at least efficiently
so
that is good and brazing is speeded up a touch. I think overall, it
is
a
nice addition. Certainly it guarantees complete wetting of all
surfaces.
Sometimes in normal brazing you can end up with dams that impede the
flow of
filler metal. These cannot be seen. I would guess that this is
reduced,
almost eliminated with Silver butter. I was also impressed by the
silver
content. You don't think it will do anything and then all of a sudden
everything is done. That is neat.
One 3oz tube at this rate should be enough for 30 joints or so. Freddy
is
adding to the choices we have. I need to practice more. The only
negative
thing I can say is that I don't love the silver flash, but since I sand
and
finish so much anyhow it really doesn't matter much. The seat tube in
the
photo set took a total of 8 minutes to finish to that degree. It
certainly
is some insurance and I can see how it can speed up brazing. It is
something I am looking forward to using more of.
Thanks for reading.
Pictures here....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bohemian_bicycles/sets/72157617479847525/
Dave Bohm
Bohemian Bicycles